yeah you know they were some of them i think arguably lincoln might have been that kind of person he was actually praised i think it was emerson as as a man who did not offend by superiority but he had a very modest. presentation which was prized at the time but also you know even if you go across the pond to the romantic poets of great britain you also see this kind of. celebration of the solitary thinker the solitary figure he felt things deeply these things were prized at that time and we've we've lost sight of that more recently. though he was there too you know when you talk about welfare it must be the world's most eloquent interviewer i think there are a lot of eloquent introverts out there i think if you look at a great many of the great artists and writers working today you also find a lot of introverts but it's just that there's a pressure nowadays to really be able to go out and also be a public spokesperson at the same time and yet there are some who and you talk about this your own experience of the some who who have learned how to dance in both worlds i if you score me